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Numerics and the KJV

Bible This article on Numerics is astounding. KJV is almost completely from the Bishops Bible and the Geneva Bible, which came from the Great Bible and the Mathews Bible, which came from Tyndale, which came from the Vulgate and younger copies but not any ancient copies or manuscripts. Try passing a writing through that many authors and see if you can come up with something accurate. Impossible! Most think that the KJV came from the Received Text which in itself is a copy off a copy off a copy, etc. It did not come from the Received Text except through other translations. No Bible translator would choose a younger copy like the Received Text today to make a Bible because of the availability of many more ancient manuscripts that were not available in King James' time. Dr. Ivan Panin, who discovered Numerics, found the Received Text broke the numeric pattern to often to be useful. Today we can go to the most ancient manuscripts which were made much closer to the originals. The Bible Code or ELS is found also in the ancient manuscripts much more often than younger manuscripts. Even though the Received is relatively inferior, it is still far better than the KJV reflects as anyone with a copy can see for themselves. One place the Received Text may be found in the Interlinear Greek - English New Testament by Zondervan.

In the early '70s after much researching Greek and Hebrew words, I decided that I had a poor translation. There was absolutely no doubt because the same Greek or Hebrew word would be translated many ways in the same text, which was poor scholarship. I went looking for a bible that did not need so much correction and that came from the earliest manuscripts. I asked God to show me the most accurate bible and did a lot of research. One help on my search was Vines Expository Dictionary of New and Old Testament Words. It is considered by many, myself included, as the best. He compares the KJV (AV) with the ASV (RV) which came directly from the ancient manuscripts and the ASV is more accurate almost every time. As you can see from this chart, which came from a KJV bible, the ASV cuts out all the middle men and goes directly to the most ancient manuscripts available. The ASV can be bought from eBay, Star Bible and/or downloaded from Amazon. This bible has been famous for its accuracy. Ivan Panin checked out all the available translations with the numeric pattern and stated of the ASV, "It is still incomparably superior to any other version the writer knows of. Its defects are mere surface defects, disfiguring particles of dust as it were". He wrote this in the front of his own Numeric English New Testament (see below to order). I personally have asked other ministers who told me that in Bible College they used the ASV because of its faithfulness to the ancient manuscripts. Two of these were Baptists so I asked them why "KJ only" was taught in some of their churches. One didn't know. The other said, "It is what the people have been trained to accept from tradition". I teach many who use the KJV and I never say anything to them but the "KJ only" people try to divide the body over a lie to gather disciples after themselves. The original translators comments, which were in the original KJV, were clear that they did not believe it was the only inspired word of God. Their comments and many other proofs refuting that doctrine are found here.

The "K.J. only" adherents believe that they have the original 1611 KJV, which is ridiculous since 1611 the KJV was revised in 1613, 1629, 1638, 1644, 1664, 1701, 1744, 1762, 1769, 1850, and 1885. Which of these was the "only inspired Word of God"? If the first one was, why did God make so many mistakes? The revisions included changes in punctuation, capitalization, spelling, many hundreds of changes in words, word order, possessives, singulars for plurals, articles, pronouns, conjunctions, prepositions, entire phrases, and the addition and deletion of words. More than 400 errors in the first edition of the KJV were corrected in a subsequent edition only two years later. There came to be well over 75,000 word changes. How many words does it take to make a translation uninspired? How many mistakes does God make? According to the Word itself only the original writings are God-breathed. {2 Tim.3:16} Every scripture (Greek: "graphe" or writing) inspired of God (Greek: "is God-breathed") [is] also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness. {3:17} That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work. No translation that is touched of man is perfect as the original writings were but we can seek the truth and God will lead us to accuracy.

I have a copy of the original KJV and it is very hard for someone other than a 17th century Englishman to read. The Catholic apocryphal books were in the 1611 version and were not removed from any of its revisions until the Archbishop of Canterbury removed it in 1885, leaving only 66 books. Strangely enough, the "KJV only" folks claim that Westcott and Hort who put together the text for the ASV were just apostate Catholics; however, they knew better than to use the Apocrypha, which by the way has no numeric pattern! Since the KJV had no God-inspired pattern because of the Apocrypha how could it be the only inspired Word of God?

The truth is that a 1611 Englishman who followed King James was following an admitted bisexual who opposed all efforts by the Puritans to reform the Church of England and move it away from its Catholic roots. Of course, we hear a sanitized version for the beginnings of Protestantism, but like mother like daughter. Even today there is little difference between Catholicism and the Church of England other than whether the priests marry and whether idols are permitted. The translators of the KJV were Catholic in most every other way. As Numerics proves, they were certainly not the scholars that Westcott and Hort were nor did they have the manuscripts they had. The "KJV only" folks try to point out that other bibles depart from the Word of God because they depart from the KJV, which is circular reasoning. The standard is not the KJV but the original, which can only be determined by Numerics.

Unless you believe that simple math can lie, Numerics is the absolute proof of Bible accuracy. Astounding New Discoveries (not the pamphlet quoted above) by Karl G. Sabiers, ©1941, pub. Tell International, Los Angeles) is an awesome book by a student of Panin's. Find it online under used books. This is a powerful evangelistic tool. This 1941 version is a good book about Panin's discoveries. Some later versions were perverted and even plagiarized by evil men to prove inferior manuscripts. I found this same book in later forms that cut out all of Panin's teaching on texts and bibles. They used his calculations but put in their own deceptive results. Another man put his own name on the book and replaced Panin's truths about texts with "KJV only" doctrine. Anyone who would do this is not a Christian but a fake.


Ivan Panin offered a thousand dollars in newspaper articles to anyone who could disprove Numerics and then he gave examples. No one ever collected that reward. The leading atheistic speakers refused to debate him when they found out what he had.

Numeric English New Testament by Ivan Panin is the most accurate New Testament in existence, which was made from Numerically correct texts.
Outside of this the R.V. or revised ASV are the most accurate. In the front of this NT, Panin said that the ASV "approaches the autographs (original) better than any extant copy of the New Testament".

Numeric Greek New Testament by Ivan Panin is a copy of the original Greek text made from Numerically correct texts. Before this the most accurate was the Nestle's Text, which was made from the three most ancient manuscripts. When two or more agreed, Nestle put that in the text. One place the Nestle's Text may be found is The Zondervan Parallel New Testament In Greek and English. Numerics is God's method for finding the correct text. It clearly shows where each ancient manuscript is right or wrong.

Bible Chronology by Ivan Panin using numeric proofs.

These Numeric books by Ivan Panin can be found here.


In Gen.1:2 the Bible does not say "the earth became waste and void" but "was waste and void". He created the earth from a ball of mud. The Bible does not say "replenish the earth" as KJV says but "fill the earth" as the ancient manuscripts say. This is where the Pre-adamite error came from, a KJV error in translation. Death only started reigning from Adam (Rom.5:14), so there couldn't have been any who died before this. How could Pre-adamite man live between the first and second day when the light wasn't even created till the fourth day and his food on the sixth day? There was no gap between the first and second day. {Ex.20:11} for in six days Jehovah made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is. {1 Cor.15:45} So also it is written, The first man Adam became a living soul. Adam and Eve were the parents of all living so there were no people before them (Gen.3:20, Acts 17:26). Sons of God and Giants Today

ASV in (2 Cor.12:10) Wherefore I take pleasure in weaknesses (KJV: infirmities), in injuries (insults), in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses, for Christ's sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong. "Thorn in the flesh" is mentioned four other times in the Scriptures, and not once is it an infirmity. This word "weaknesses" is from the Greek word "astheneia" meaning "want of strength". The KJV translated this word "infirmities," but the same Greek word in many other places, including this text, is translated "weak" or "weakness" (1 Cor.1:25; 2 Cor.11:29; 2 Cor.12:9,10; 2 Cor.13:4). This is dishonesty in translation for the purpose of making one's own doctrine. The same Greek word "astheneia" in the following two verses of the ASV shows us that "infirmity" is a bad translation. (1 Cor.1:25) . . . the weakness of God is stronger than men. Now we know that God is not infirm or sick so this word has to be "weakness". (2 Cor.13:4) for he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth through the power of God. For we also are weak in him, but we shall live with him through the power of God toward you. We know that Jesus Christ was not crucified through infirmity, but weakness. He would not defend Himself when He was brought before Pilate and the Jewish leaders. Likewise, we are crucified when we are weak to save ourselves while we trust in God. Earlier in the text, Paul lists what he calls weaknesses. He lists things such as shipwrecks, prisons, persecutions from enemies, and stripes. Not once does Paul mention sickness in the list.

A Critique Of Gail Riplinger's Scholarship and KJV-Only-ism

Can the divine inspiration of Scripture be proven scientifically?

Science is observable and demonstrable. My testimony is just that to those who knew me and to myself; but for further skeptics, I will share another miracle. Ivan Panin was forced to leave Russia during the Bolshevik Revolution and to come to the United States. He became a Harvard Scholar, professor, and mathematician, who once tutored Albert Einstein. His training and being a lover of God and the Scriptures well equipped him for his future work. Here he found his life's work in scientifically proving the divine inspiration of Scriptures. For fifty years, Dr. Panin devoted twelve to eighteen hours a day to this work. The basis for his revelation, which he called numerics, was the ancient Hebrew Old Testament and Greek New Testament Scriptures. The Hebrews and Greeks used their letters also for their numbers. In other words, the whole Bible was actually written in numbers also. What Dr. Panin discovered is that when he used the numbers the sixty-six books of the Bible showed a pattern of numbers and divisibility that no other writing had. He diligently researched other Hebrew and Greek writings and found no pattern. This included the apocryphal books added in the Catholic and other early Protestant Bibles, including the original King James Version before its revision.

I have read Dr. Panin's works for many years and am totally impressed. Below is a small sample of his volumes of work from a pamphlet called "Astounding New Discoveries". The number seven is by far the most common number used in the surface text of the Bible, used in Revelation alone more than fifty times; but it is also common beneath the surface of the whole Bible.


FEATURE ONE. The number of Hebrew words in this verse is exactly 7.

FEATURE TWO. The number of letters in the seven words is exactly 28, or four 7's.

FEATURE THREE. The first three seven Hebrew words contain the subject and predicate of the sentence. These three words are translated - "In the beginning God created". The number of letters in these first three Hebrew words is exactly 14, or two 7's. The last four of these seven words contain the object of the sentence. These four words are translated - "the heavens and the earth". The number of letters in these last four Hebrew words is 14, or two 7's.

FEATURE FOUR. These last four Hebrew words consist of two objects. The first is "the heavens," and the second is "and the earth". The number of letters in the first object is exactly 7. The number of letters in the second object is 7.

FEATURE FIVE. The three leading words in this verse of seven words are "God" - the subject - and "heavens" and "earth" - the objects. The number of letters in these three Hebrew words is exactly 14, or two 7's. The number of letters in the other four words of the verse is 14, or two 7's.

FEATURE SIX. The shortest word is in the middle. The number of letters in this word and the word to its left is exactly 7.

FEATURE SEVEN. The number of letters in the middle word and the word to its right is exactly 7.

. . . The above are only a few examples of the many amazing numeric facts, which have been discovered in the structure of this first verse of only seven Hebrew words. Literally dozens of other phenomenal numeric features strangely underlie the structure of this verse. (Many additional features are given in the complete, 167-page edition of "Astounding New Discoveries," © 1941, by Karl Sabiers, a student of Panin. Some later versions were edited or even plagiarized to prove poor manuscripts.)

. . . Thus, according to the law of chances, for 24 features to occur in a passage accidentally, there is only 1 chance in 191,581,231,380,566,414,401 - only 1 chance in one hundred ninety-one quintillion, five hundred eighty-one quadrillion, two hundred thirty-one trillion, three hundred eighty billion, five hundred sixty-six million, four hundred fourteen thousand, four hundred one. (The nomenclature herein used is the American, not the British.)

Many brief Bible passages have as many as seventy or a hundred or more amazing numeric features in the very structure of their text. If there is only one chance in quintillions that 24 features could occur together accidentally, what would the chance be for 70 features to occur together accidentally?

When there is only one chance in thousands for something to happen accidentally, it is already considered highly improbable that it will occur at all. When there is only one chance in hundreds of thousands, it is considered practically impossible. But here there is one chance in not only millions, but billions, and trillions, and quadrillions, and quintillions, that merely 24 features could occur together in a passage accidentally.

If that was not enough to convince any sane man, there are patterns of 8's, 11's, 13's, 17's, 19's, 23's, 37's, 43's, etc, on top of the 7's throughout the Word. Larger patterns connect book to book, Old Testament to New Testament and show the correct order of the books. What all this proves is that one divine, brilliant mind wrote the Bible rather than 33 simple men with relatively no schooling who lived in different countries over a span of 1600 years. If men wrote the Bible, they would have all had to live at the same time and place and all been mathematic geniuses. Then they would have each had to write their book last with the knowledge of the numeric pattern in all the other books. Men have tried to write a simple numeric text with very few features and failed miserably.

The Hebrews had extremely stringent rules for the scribes to follow in copying the ancient manuscripts. God did this through them in order to preserve this pattern of perfection in the Scriptures that we might have the "God breathed" Word of God. If a Greek or Hebrew letter is added, removed, or changed, the pattern breaks in that text.

The main problem today in making Bibles is deciding which manuscript to use. It makes common sense to use only ancient manuscripts, which were close to the original with less likelihood of human mistake. Using a copy of a copy of a copy, etc. makes no sense; and yet, because of prejudices or lack of availability of ancient manuscripts, some have made Bibles from these. Needless to say, the ancient manuscripts proved to be much more numeric. What God has done through numerics is to give us a method by which we can find out which manuscript is right and where each one is right or wrong. Numerics has made searching multiple translations obsolete. It also makes it possible to find out which translation is the most accurate. In comparing the Bibles up through the early 1900's, Dr. Panin rated the Revised Version, which was slightly revised for Americans and called the American Standard Version, as "head and shoulders above its competitors". Before discovering Dr. Panin's work I came to this conclusion from Vine's Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words and comparing manuscripts. I want to say that in almost any Bible you pick up, you will find the needed knowledge of salvation and holiness. Some may want to start with easy reader versions until they gain a little knowledge; but for the finer points in teaching, accuracy is important. Toward this end, Dr. Panin worked diligently. Two outstanding results of his work are the numerically correct Numeric English New Testament and the Numeric Greek New Testament. In my own research, I consider them the most accurate on the market.

Many historians seem to agree that King James was anything but "Saint James" as religious people claim.

James I of England

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (excerpts)

James VI and I (James Stuart) (June 19, 1566 - March 27, 1625) was King of Scots, King of England, and King of Ireland. He was the first to style himself King of Great Britain. He ruled in Scotland as James VI from 24 July 1567; from the 'Union of the Crowns', he ruled in England and Ireland as James I, from 24 March 1603 until his death. He was the first monarch of England from the House of Stuart, succeeding the last Tudor monarch, Elizabeth I, who died without issue.

Religious challenges

Upon James I's arrival in London, he was almost immediately faced by religious conflicts in England. He was presented with the Millenary Petition, a document which it is claimed contained one thousand signatures, by Puritans requesting further Anglican Church reform. He accepted the invitation to a conference in Hampton Court, which was subsequently delayed due to the Plague. In 1604, at the Hampton Court Conference, James was unwilling to agree to most of their demands. He did, however, agree to fulfil a request which was to have far-reaching effect by authorizing an official translation of the Bible, which came to be known as the King James Bible (published in 1611).

Personal relationships

Miniatures such as this by Nicholas Hilliard, 1603-1609, were often created as love tokens.

Miniatures such as this by Nicholas Hilliard, 1603-1609, were often created as love tokens.

It was said of him in the streets, "Elizabeth was King: now James is Queen" (Rex fuit Elizabeth, nunc est regina Jacobus), and this quote has survived [3]. Growing up, James did not have any parents, for his father, Henry Stuart, Lord Darnley, was murdered and his mother, Mary I of Scotland was forced to flee when she married the suspected murderer, James Hepburn, 4th Earl of Bothwell. His grandfather was assassinated during his boyhood, and he had no siblings. However, throughout his life he had deep emotional relationships with his male courtiers, beginning with his older relative Esme Stewart, 1st Duke of Lennox. At the same time, he was not much interested in his wife. At first, James and Queen Anne were close, but gradually they drifted apart. After the death of their daughter Sophia, they agreed to live separately.

His behavior with the late Lennox and his distancing himself from his wife attracted wide attention. Francis Osborne noted in a memoir, not published until many years later during Cromwell's day, that "The love the King showed men was amorously conveyed as if he had mistaken their sex and thought them ladies, which I have seen Somerset and Buckingham labour to resemble in the effeminateness of their dressings; though in whorish looks and wanton gestures they exceeded any part of womankind my conversation did ever cope withal. Nor was his love, or whatever posterity will please to call it... carried on with a discretion sufficient to cover a less scandalous behaviour; for the king's kissing them after so lascivious a mode in public, and upon the theater, as it were, of the world, prompted many to imagine some things done in the tiring house that exceed my expressions no less than they do my experience, and therefore left them upon the waves of conjecture, which hath in my hearing tossed them from one side to another".

A diary entry by Sir Simonds D'Ewes after speaking with James said, "I discoursed with him of the things that were secret, as of the sin of sodomy, how frequent it was in the wicked city (London), and if God did not provide some wonderful blessing against it, we could not but expect some horrible punishment for it; especially it being, as we had probable cause to fear, a sin in the prince as well as the people, which God is for the most part chastiser of himself, because no man else indeed dare reprove or tell them of their faults".

Responding to deflect the growing criticism over his sexuality James adopted a severe stance towards sodomy using English law. His book on kingship, Basilikon Doron, lists sodomy among those "horrible crimes which ye are bound in conscience never to forgive". Jeremy Bentham in an unpublished manuscript denounced James as a hypocrite after his crackdown. King James also singled out sodomy in a letter to Lord Burleigh giving directives that Judges were to interpret the law broadly and not issue any pardons saying that "no more colour may be left to judges to work upon their wits in that point".

Esme Stewart, 1st Duke of Lennox

At the age of thirteen, James made his formal entry into Edinburgh. Upon arriving he met the thirty-seven year old, married, father of five children, French lord Esme Stewart, 1st Duke of Lennox who Sir James Melville described as "of nature, upright, just, and gentle". The two became extremely close and it was said by an English observer that "from the time he was fourteen years old and no more, that is, when the Lord Stuart came into Scotland... even then he began... to clasp some one in the embraces of his great love, above all others" and that James became "in such love with him as in the open sight of the people oftentimes he will clasp him about the neck with his arms and kiss him".

The King first made Stewart a gentleman of the bedchamber, then went on to the Privy Council, earl and finally duke of Lennox. In Presbyterian Scotland the thought of a Catholic duke irked many and Lennox had to make a choice between his Catholic faith and his loyalty to James. At the end Lennox chose James and the king taught him the doctrines of Calvinism. The Scottish Kirk remained suspicious of Lennox after his public conversion and took alarm when he had the earl of Morton tried and beheaded on charges of treason. The Scottish ministry was also warned that the duke sought to "draw the King to carnal lust".

In response the Scottish nobles plotted to oust Lennox. They did so by luring James to Ruthven Castle as a guest but then kept him as prisoner for ten months. The Lord Enterprisers forced him to banish Lennox. The duke journeyed back to France and kept a secret correspondence with James. Lennox in these letters says he gave up his family "to dedicate myself entirely to you"; he prayed to die for James to prove "the faithfulness which is engraved within my heart, which will last forever". The former duke wrote "Whatever might happen to me, I shall always be your faithful servant... you are alone in this world whom my heart is resolved to serve. And would to God that my breast might be split open so that it might be seen what is engraven therein".

James was devastated by the loss of Lennox. In his return to France Lennox had met a frosty reception as an apostate Catholic. The Scottish nobles had thought that they would be proven right in their convictions that Lennox's conversion was artificial when he returned to France. Instead the former duke remained Presbyterian and died shortly after, leaving James his embalmed heart. James had repeatedly vouched for Lennox's religious sincerity and memorialized him in a poem called "Ane Tragedie of the Phoenix", which said he was like an exotic bird of unique beauty killed by envy.

Following Esme's death James married Anne of Denmark in 1589 to produce heirs for the throne. The two had eight children with the last being born during 1607. By then James had lost interest in his wife and it was said that she led a sad, reclusive life, appearing at court functions on occasion.

Robert Carr, 1st Earl of Somerset

A few years later after the controversy over his relationship with Lennox faded away and he began a relation with Robert Carr, 1st Earl of Somerset. In 1607, at a royal jousting contest, seventeen-year-old Robert Carr, the son of Sir Thomas Carr or Kerr of Ferniehurst, was knocked from a horse and broke his leg. According to the Earl of Suffolk, Thomas Howard, James fell in love with the young man, and as the years progressed showered Carr with gifts. Carr was made a gentleman of the bedchamber and he was noted for his handsome appearance as well as his limited intelligence. His downfall came through Frances Howard, a beautiful young married woman. Upon Carr's request James stacked a court of bishops that would allow her to divorce her husband in order to marry Carr. As a wedding present Carr was named earl of Somerset.

During the next two years the relationship between Carr and James became troubled as Carr increasingly preferred his wife. In 1615 James fell out with Carr. In a letter James complained, among other matters, that Carr had been "creeping back and withdrawing yourself from lying in my chamber, notwithstanding my many hundred times earnest soliciting you to the contrary" and that he rebuked James "more sharply and bitterly than ever my master Buchanan durst do".

At this point public scandal erupted when the underkeeper of the tower revealed that Carr's new wife had poisoned Sir Thomas Overbury, his best friend who had opposed the marriage. James angered over Carr's attachment to his wife exploited the opportunity and forcefully insisted that they face trial.

On the eve of the trial, Carr threatened to reveal publicly that the King had slept with him. The next day, as he gave testimony before the Lords in Westminster Hall, two men were stationed beside him with cloaks, ready to muffle him in case of an indiscrete outburst. This was done on instructions of the King to the Lieutenant of the Tower. Carr, however, conducted himself with dignity. His wife confessed to the deed and they were sentenced to death. The King reprieved them both but held them in the tower for seven years and then pardoned them and granted the pair a country estate. [4]

George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham

The last of James's three male favourites was George Villiers, 1st Duke of Buckingham, the son of a Leicestershire knight. They had met in 1614, around the same time that the situation with Carr was deteriorating. Buckingham was described as exceptionally handsome, intelligent and honest. In 1615 James knighted him and eight years later he was the first commoner in more than a century to be elevated to a dukedom.

The King was blunt and unashamed in his avowal of love for Buckingham:

I, James, am neither a god nor an angel, but a man like any other. Therefore I act like a man and confess to loving those dear to me more than other men. You may be sure that I love the Earl of Buckingham more than anyone else, and more than you who are here assembled. I wish to speak in my own behalf and not to have it thought to be a defect, for Jesus Christ did the same, and therefore I cannot be blamed. Christ had John, and I have George.

Contemporary commentators, such as the homosexual Theophile de Viau did not mince words in describing the king's relationship. In his poem, Au marquis du Boukinquan, de Viau writes: "Apollo with his songs /debauched young Hyacinthus, ... And it is well known that the king of England / f***s the Duke of Buckingham".

Buckingham became good friends with James's wife Anne, she addressed him in affectionate letters begging him to be "always true" to her husband. In a letter to James, Buckingham said "sir, all the way hither I entertained myself, your unworthy servant, with this dispute, whether you loved me now... better than at the time which I shall never forget at Farnham, where the bed's head could not be found between the master and his dog". James in some letters addressed him as his spouse saying that "I desire only to live in this world for your sake... I had rather live banished in any part of the earth with you than live a sorrowful widow's life without you... God bless you, my sweet child and wife, and grant that ye may ever be a comfort to your dear dad and husband".[5] A few years later James died with Buckingham at his side.

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